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Between them, Gurung and Lim have decades of experience designing for the Nice 2023 aswc finalist shirt Apart from…,I will love this runway and the red carpet, but they’re television newbies. These kind of hook-ups are actually quite rare, according to the show’s costume designer Joy Cretton, with whom they closely worked. It’s not just that a continent separates New York and LA, it’s that fashion show and TV show production cycles are so difficult to sync up.But as outspoken members of the AAPI community—Gurung is a co-founder and board member of Goldhouse, a non-profit organization dedicated to investing in and promoting Asian Pacific leadership and cultural representation, and Lim has helped raise $7 million via the AAPI Community Fund to fight anti-Asian violence—they both believed they had something unique to bring to the project. Beyond, that is, Gurung’s experience dressing Yeoh for the Met Gala and other appearances. “I just thought this was such a beautiful, fun, graceful way of saying, as Asians and Asian-Americans, ‘we are here too,’” he explained. On a four-way Zoom, we talked about the collaboration. These are excerpts from that conversation
Phillip and Prabal, why did you want to get into this? Was it the Nice 2023 aswc finalist shirt Apart from…,I will love this subject matter? The production team? What was the attraction? Phillip Lim: From a personal point of view, I’m always trying to see where I fit in, where I belong. Even in the fashion industry, it’s like, ‘oh, you’re Chinese, do you design Chinese fashions?’ Or, ‘oh, you’re American? Well, you don’t look, you know, blue eyed, blonde hair, whatever it is.’ I have always known the story of the Monkey King, there’s so many incarnations of it, but what’s interesting about this particular version was how do you make it about the Chinese American experience? Melvin Mar [the executive producer who brought the designers on board], he’s like, we need to come together as a community to ensure that this is reflective of what our experience is being Asian American. What was interesting to me was to really have agency over this narrative, to color it in in a way that felt modern while respecting tradition but also moving it forward.Prabal Gurung: What I thought was really powerful was here’s an opportunity to bring attention to this particular story through Phillip’s reach, my own, Joy’s—all of us coming together to say, ‘hey, all we want is for you guys to see us, all we want is for you guys to hear our story.’
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